so the rtx 3080 is already here and finding one is already almost impossible but we're still going to come up with some cool content and in this case we want to focus on amd's ryzen scaling you see if you caught our launch day coverage which you can check it out right over here and i hope you didn't miss that we approached this release differently from the others honestly it was a foregone conclusion that the rtx 3080 can beat the fastest gpu from
last generation we also wondered could
it dominate when you install it onto
an older system you know could it give
you performance or massive performance
improvement without giving your gaming
rig a complete facelift instead of only pairing the 3080 with a super expensive cpu that's out of most people's budget we install it into a gaming system you could buy three years ago and the results well it turned out that an older i7 7700k only lost by a few frames per second at 1440p and
was pretty much neck to neck with the
10900k at 4k it was really impressive to
see but you know what's even more
impressive amd's dominance in the
processor market right now there aren't just the more affordable option anymore ryzen is now the right choice for most users also 3rd gen ryzen cpus and b550 motherboards are no-brainers for people looking for a more affordable system upgrade so this video's purpose is to show ryzen users what they can expect with an rtx 3080 and whether or not if they need to spend a lot of money to get the best out of it also just like the previous video we will be comparing current ryzen cpus to the ones that were launched almost three years ago so let's get to that right after this say hello to proper airflow with be quiet purebase 500dx a compact mid tower with a mesh front panel and three 140 millimeter purewings 2 fans that are silent and capable enjoy tasteful argp illumination a type c port
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below okay so let's get some
housekeeping out of the way before
diving right into the benchmarks what we're going with this video is sort of bookmarking the first and third gen ryzen desktop lineups it all boils down to price on one hand we're using a four core four thread ryzen 3 1300x which was one of the most popular budget processors back when it was launched in 2017 for
about 130 us dollars and yeah i know that
using a super high-end gpu on an
entry-level cpu might sound completely
nuts but it should give us some
interesting baseline for the benchmarks of the results plus why not the best equivalent to that right now is the ryzen 3 3100 that goes for about 120
it also is a native four core cpu but
amd is now enabled smt so it has eight
processing threats on the higher end is
the ryzen 7 1700x which has eight
cores and 16 threads a lot of people
chose it over the 1800s since it was a
hundred dollars less and it offered
pretty similar performance especially in
gaming the equivalent nowadays is the 16
thread 3800 xt which was launched at 400 and it happens to be our favorite cpu right now
this thing's just awesome on paper it
has the same 4.7 gigahertz boost clock
as the 3900 xt and the 3950x but
our sample actually hits higher
sustained frequencies in games than either of those basically that means it's a better choice for a pure gaming system the last minute addition for us was the 3950x which mike literally decided to throw into the test bench uh last minute and of course there's intel's 10900k since it's the fastest cpu right now so it's the benchmark all others will be measured against now you might be wondering why there aren't any other processors here and i guess i can just build beans right now believe it or not the actual differences between the 1300x and the highest 10 ryzen cpus
aren't that big as you might expect in
gaming at least so the other processors
just sort of fall into a narrow
window as for the rest of the test
system specs they're pretty identical
except for the memory on first gen ryzen it just doesn't like the speeds in excess of 3000 megahertz so we kept it at that speed otherwise all the test systems were configured identically
since this is a super high-end gpu we're
going to be testing at 1440p and
4k only expect to see 1080p come back
when we start looking at the 3070 though also if you're using an ultrawide 3440x1440 monitor you can expect results that are a bit lower than 1440p but not by a huge amount so how does ryzen react when you hook it up to the fastest gpu
right now well let's find out starting
with call of duty and right away you'll
see that there's literally no visual
difference between the 10900k the
3800 xt and the 3850x things do tighten
up a bit more at 4k but the older cpus
are still pretty far behind but like i said in other videos the iw8 engine loves new architectures frequencies and more cores at higher resolutions like these cs go still tends to be a bit cp bottlenecked at 1440p
but the number of processing threads
really doesn't make an impact this
is all about how well a given architecture
can perform in lightly threaded
operations which is why the first gen
ryzen cpus fall behind even at 4k
another thing you might start to see as
these benchmarks go by is while the
1300x posts okay averages its quad core
layout negatively impacts the overall smoothness of one percent lows in a lot of titles in doom you can start seeing evidence of gp bottlenecking in 1440p so
all the processors are pretty close to
one another that situation gets even
more apparent at 4k it's really
amazing to see what happens when a game
developer actually takes time to
optimize their game properly flight
simulator 2020 is the exact opposite of
doom it's super demanding on all of your systems resources but it seems to love high cpu clocks and more than four processing threads then again this could come down to optimizations too because man oh man this is a game that's really hard to run on any gaming rig zero dawn brings us back to gp bottlenecking again that means all of the processors here perform almost identically to one another regardless of their generation that's good to see for sure since you could have any cpu from the 1300x to
the 3950x and expect pretty similar frame
rates in this game with an rtx 3080.
moving on to rainbow six siege and yep we have another game that's gpu limited even at 1440p 4k ends up being pretty much a tie even if you're rocking a 130 cpu from three years ago in the last video i mentioned the unreal engine has a lot of optimizations built into it for newer architectures and these results prove it but only at 1440p here
it's obvious that the cpus are becoming
a bottleneck at least at the high end
but when you switch over to 4k it's more of the same with a straight line between every single one of those processors
there really isn't much to say about red
dead redemption 2 it's all gpu
bound what's interesting is it seems
like rockstar's many patches have fixed
some of the massive issues this game
used to have with cpu scaling so now
regardless of whether you're playing at
1440p or 4k the graphics card will choke
long before most processors become a
problem for performance but again that quad-core architecture of the 1300x means it's one percent lows results take a beating one of the main problems with overwatch is that its engine is limited to 300
frames per second and it looks like all
of these systems here can hit pretty close
to that mark consistently with the rtx
3080 installed at 4k there's a bit of a gpu limitation but honestly at these kind of frame rates upgrading the cpu to the best that's available right now isn't going to make a massive difference well that ended up busting a lot of preconceptions didn't it you see as i mentioned in our launch date coverage um using the fastest cpu to benchmark graphics cards eliminates bottlenecks but it might give viewers the wrong impression that that's the type of hardware that they need for something like an rtx 3080 because in reality stepping up from a ryzen 3 3100 to something like the ryzen 9 3950x
will net you a few frames per second and
that's usually it why you may ask
well because at 1440p and higher
resolutions even the rtx 3080 can become
a limiting factor and that nullifies
many of the advantages of high-end cpus other cars like the rtx 3070 would see the gap narrow even more but there are some exceptions so i want to dive a bit further into what we saw first of all the 3900 xt and 3950x dominate in productivity apps but the raw number of cores actually works against them in gaming by limiting frequencies in lightly threaded workloads
that means a more efficient cpu like the
ryzen 7 3800 xt can come along
bust out some high sustained speeds and offer an equal to or better gaming experience
while costing hundreds less the 1700x
was a pleasant surprise because optimizations
for these first gen ryzen cpus have made
them pretty competitive in our
benchmarks so with a few minor exemptions you can pop in an rtx 3080 into an older amd motherboard and expect frame rates that are within 15 of today's
best cpus now that's a cool upgrade
story you see most games don't
benefit from a massive number of threads but there is a thin red line between enough
and not enough processing threads and i
think that magic number seems to
be four because you know we're starting to see older processors quad-core cpus like this ryzen 3
1300x really struggle especially when it
comes to in-game smoothness so
this should be obvious but i guess i'll
say it anyways just don't pair a
high-end gpu with a previous gen
quad-core cpu because tons of
performance will be left on the table
but enabling smt on the budget ryzen 3 3rd gen cpus will make a world of difference for amd so if you have a 1300x or 1200 you can confidently upgrade to the 3100 since it offers a low price and super competitive frame rates even against
much more expensive cpus also remember
that the upcoming rtx 3070 and more
affordable carts from nvidia will
create a gpu bottleneck even sooner and
therefore need less cpu resources than
what you've seen here alright so i just
want to wrap up by leveling with you
guys don't take this video as a recommendation to just go out and buy a low end cpu and then pair it with an rtx 3080 that's just not an ideal setup but take this video as a tool
to evaluate what your needs are and then
hopefully lead you to a better choice
when it comes to your next upgrade
or your next build so that note thank
you so much for watching if you're actually
interested in the sort of content
especially when it comes to upcoming gpu
releases like the rtx 3070 let us know
in the comments down below i'm eber with
hardware connects thank you so much for
watching stay safe spend responsibly my
friends and i'll talk to you guys in the
next one
nope ding dongs thank you so much for
watching if you're actually
interested in this sort of content i give up i give up
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